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	<title>Comments on: SERIES:  Negotiate A Pay Raise &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Connie Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like it will be a nice, relaxed walk through (with homework *snarl*) Seriously though, thank you because I really believe that in order to get what you want you&#039;d better ask for it!

A quick brush-up on exactly how to ask for more money is always relevant.I&#039;ll be tuning in :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like it will be a nice, relaxed walk through (with homework *snarl*) Seriously though, thank you because I really believe that in order to get what you want you&#8217;d better ask for it!</p>
<p>A quick brush-up on exactly how to ask for more money is always relevant.I&#8217;ll be tuning in <img src='http://www.josephsangl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that people need to remember.  

A company will do what it wants to do.  It may be harder to get that pay raise if you&#039;re in a mega corporation.  But depending on whose ear the &quot;boss&quot; has, it still can be done.

Although not directly a pay raise issue, a job was posted at my wife&#039;s employer.  It was a job she believed she could do, but she wasn&#039;t going to apply because it had education and background requirements she didn&#039;t have.  It also included a modest promotion.

I used to work there in a management position and know how they operate.  I told her to go ahead and apply.  If they wanted her to have the position, they would waive the requirements.  If they didn&#039;t, they would use them to exclude her.  Bottom line, they will do what they want to do.  

They chose to waive them.  Matter of fact, they thought she had the requirements when she asked for the position and were thrilled she did. 

There is a downside to asking.  Some may see this as cynical.  But it&#039;s important to go into these situations with your eyes wide open.  

There are too many owners and managers who think you&#039;re doing a bang up job and are indispensable until......you push them for more money. They may even grant your request, but underneath they are seething.  The increase wasn&#039;t on their timetable or terms.  Sometimes even worse, they felt like a gun was held to their heads.  You may have been bullet proof before the request.  They may even begin a campaign to run you off or begin the process to replace you.

Always remember, if it&#039;s a small or medium company, often the person running the company is the owner and they are within the constraints of the law are free to do what they want to do with someone&#039;s job.  But it&#039;s always wise to make sure you have a contingency in place or understand that you may have won the battle but lost the war.  

I know Dave Ramsey can often be benevolent to his employees.  But it always seems to be pretty much on his terms.  So my guess is his &quot;you raise will be effective when you are&quot; is pretty much a stock answer to anyone who is seeking more $$ whether the performance is good or poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that people need to remember.  </p>
<p>A company will do what it wants to do.  It may be harder to get that pay raise if you&#8217;re in a mega corporation.  But depending on whose ear the &#8220;boss&#8221; has, it still can be done.</p>
<p>Although not directly a pay raise issue, a job was posted at my wife&#8217;s employer.  It was a job she believed she could do, but she wasn&#8217;t going to apply because it had education and background requirements she didn&#8217;t have.  It also included a modest promotion.</p>
<p>I used to work there in a management position and know how they operate.  I told her to go ahead and apply.  If they wanted her to have the position, they would waive the requirements.  If they didn&#8217;t, they would use them to exclude her.  Bottom line, they will do what they want to do.  </p>
<p>They chose to waive them.  Matter of fact, they thought she had the requirements when she asked for the position and were thrilled she did. </p>
<p>There is a downside to asking.  Some may see this as cynical.  But it&#8217;s important to go into these situations with your eyes wide open.  </p>
<p>There are too many owners and managers who think you&#8217;re doing a bang up job and are indispensable until&#8230;&#8230;you push them for more money. They may even grant your request, but underneath they are seething.  The increase wasn&#8217;t on their timetable or terms.  Sometimes even worse, they felt like a gun was held to their heads.  You may have been bullet proof before the request.  They may even begin a campaign to run you off or begin the process to replace you.</p>
<p>Always remember, if it&#8217;s a small or medium company, often the person running the company is the owner and they are within the constraints of the law are free to do what they want to do with someone&#8217;s job.  But it&#8217;s always wise to make sure you have a contingency in place or understand that you may have won the battle but lost the war.  </p>
<p>I know Dave Ramsey can often be benevolent to his employees.  But it always seems to be pretty much on his terms.  So my guess is his &#8220;you raise will be effective when you are&#8221; is pretty much a stock answer to anyone who is seeking more $$ whether the performance is good or poor.</p>
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